Comments on: How to NOT make money on the Internet http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/ Fresh ideas for blogging, making money, and living a more productive life Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:48:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: This was the Year that Was, 2007 | Sephy's Platzish http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-89550 This was the Year that Was, 2007 | Sephy's Platzish Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:55:07 +0000 http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/#comment-89550 [...] June, I did my first guest post - How to NOT Make Money on the Internet - on Freshblogger, about various job scams that you will find out there. Also, on that front, I [...] [...] June, I did my first guest post – How to NOT Make Money on the Internet – on Freshblogger, about various job scams that you will find out there. Also, on that front, I [...]

]]> By: fakechecks.org - A Must-See Site | Sephy's Platzish http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-89068 fakechecks.org - A Must-See Site | Sephy's Platzish Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:11:34 +0000 http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/#comment-89068 [...] want some more information on these scams, check out a guest post I did at FreshBlogger in June - How to NOT Make Money on the Internet, along with Snoskred’s post from July - Snoskred made 5 MILLION DOLLARS online this year! [...] [...] want some more information on these scams, check out a guest post I did at FreshBlogger in June – How to NOT Make Money on the Internet, along with Snoskred’s post from July – Snoskred made 5 MILLION DOLLARS online this year! [...]

]]> By: ray http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-44810 ray Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:16:56 +0000 http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/#comment-44810 The Nigerian scams puzzle me the most, but I can see how someone could get sucked in by the numerous phishing schemes out there. Email is definitely a cheap and easy way to market something, but one of the big problems here is that many of the email addresses are being gotten by what I would assume to be illegal means. Name squeeze pages and opt-ins are legit, but many of the unsolicited ads we find in our inboxes are coming from companies we do business with and who promised to keep our info safe. What's happening is that unscrupulous employees are selling email addresses and other information to spammers. I'm willing to bet there's a huge underground market in this sort of activity and I'm not at all surprised. Being in the IT business myself, I can see how easy it is to just query a database and download or print the results. Then, just contact someone who's willing to buy. It's dishonest, disgusting, and most likely illegal... The Nigerian scams puzzle me the most, but I can see how someone could get sucked in by the numerous phishing schemes out there.

Email is definitely a cheap and easy way to market something, but one of the big problems here is that many of the email addresses are being gotten by what I would assume to be illegal means. Name squeeze pages and opt-ins are legit, but many of the unsolicited ads we find in our inboxes are coming from companies we do business with and who promised to keep our info safe.

What’s happening is that unscrupulous employees are selling email addresses and other information to spammers. I’m willing to bet there’s a huge underground market in this sort of activity and I’m not at all surprised. Being in the IT business myself, I can see how easy it is to just query a database and download or print the results. Then, just contact someone who’s willing to buy. It’s dishonest, disgusting, and most likely illegal…

]]> By: Valentin http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-44377 Valentin Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:47:22 +0000 http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/#comment-44377 1- "Where did the mail come from? " One reason for I use yahoo mail is becouse I`m to lazzy to find another email adress provider who`ll give me free this : X-Apparently-To: .....@yahoo.com via xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 07:24:51 -0700 X-YahooFilteredBulk: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx X-Originating-IP: [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] This a small part of info, but "X-Originating-IP: [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] " allways tells you exactly the email (provider) address. Usually, 50/50 a free provider as well as a payd one. As tiscali.co.uk, .rr.br and others, from where I get half of spams-scams and they have no back-office/support staff to answer ... Reason to respond to scams to a yahoo.com or similar is becouse you can`t fight back (declare spam-scam, report spam-scam and so on) if you`re the one starting the talk ... 2- http://www.informationweek.com/software/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=JVDVG21DSHA1OQSNDLOSKH0CJUNN2JVN?articleID=199601992&articleID=199601992 Is not an affiliate link, do skip the ad page if it show at beggining. 1- “Where did the mail come from? ”

One reason for I use yahoo mail is becouse I`m to lazzy to find another email adress provider who`ll give me free this :
X-Apparently-To: …..@yahoo.com via xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 07:24:51 -0700
X-YahooFilteredBulk: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
X-Originating-IP: [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]

This a small part of info, but “X-Originating-IP: [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] ” allways tells you exactly the email (provider) address. Usually, 50/50 a free provider as well as a payd one. As tiscali.co.uk, .rr.br and others, from where I get half of spams-scams and they have no back-office/support staff to answer …

Reason to respond to scams to a yahoo.com or similar is becouse you can`t fight back (declare spam-scam, report spam-scam and so on) if you`re the one starting the talk …

2- http://www.informationweek.com/software/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=JVDVG21DSHA1OQSNDLOSKH0CJUNN2JVN?articleID=199601992&articleID=199601992

Is not an affiliate link, do skip the ad page if it show at beggining.

]]> By: Luisa http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-44255 Luisa Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:20:20 +0000 http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/#comment-44255 Wow! Great article. Thanks. Wow! Great article. Thanks.

]]> By: digitalnomad http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-44191 digitalnomad Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:05:14 +0000 http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/#comment-44191 I have a marketing background and used to design direct response campaigns. That is a fancy term for 'Junk Mail". In my opinion. email marketing is the Junk Mail of the Internet. It has much resistance and many people find it offensive, myself included. I have gotten to the point where I no longer sign up for many things online, because I know it will lead to relentless email. Marketers seem to go through phases as they experiment and become more popular and successful. Joel Comm is a major offender, Yaro Starak now seems to be on the email bandwagon. I am about to delete both of these guys from my readers, and also blacklist them on my email. Sorry boys, but it does not help your image as unique marketers, or experts of anything. There also is some kind of weird and accepted formula to this with horrible long and boring copy, meaningless quotes, outrageous subheads, and worthless endorsements and testimonials (making it all very canned and unbelievable) usually, but not always accompanied with photos of sports cars, palm trees, jets, boats, and mansions. I suppose Internet Junk Mail will always be around in one form or another. I think that eventually it will be perceived for what it is...a cheesy method of marketing with a deplorable conversion rate (as you have so aptly pointed out). I have a marketing background and used to design direct response campaigns. That is a fancy term for ‘Junk Mail”.

In my opinion. email marketing is the Junk Mail of the Internet. It has much resistance and many people find it offensive, myself included.

I have gotten to the point where I no longer sign up for many things online, because I know it will lead to relentless email.

Marketers seem to go through phases as they experiment and become more popular and successful. Joel Comm is a major offender, Yaro Starak now seems to be on the email bandwagon. I am about to delete both of these guys from my readers, and also blacklist them on my email. Sorry boys, but it does not help your image as unique marketers, or experts of anything.

There also is some kind of weird and accepted formula to this with horrible long and boring copy, meaningless quotes, outrageous subheads, and worthless endorsements and testimonials (making it all very canned and unbelievable) usually, but not always accompanied with photos of sports cars, palm trees, jets, boats, and mansions.

I suppose Internet Junk Mail will always be around in one form or another. I think that eventually it will be perceived for what it is…a cheesy method of marketing with a deplorable conversion rate (as you have so aptly pointed out).

]]> By: Wallet Rehab - Ways to save money http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-44187 Wallet Rehab - Ways to save money Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:28:59 +0000 http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/#comment-44187 I agree with secure email. It's a numbers game. The more e-mails they send out, the better the odds are that they'll find a "winner" I get at least one a day. Deleting them has become automatic! I agree with secure email. It’s a numbers game. The more e-mails they send out, the better the odds are that they’ll find a “winner” I get at least one a day. Deleting them has become automatic!

]]> By: secure email http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-44154 secure email Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:41:29 +0000 http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/#comment-44154 Its all about statistic. If you are going to send several million emails you will get a small percentage going for the scam. Some studies say that scams have a conversion rate of 0.0001% Its all about statistic. If you are going to send several million emails you will get a small percentage going for the scam. Some studies say that scams have a conversion rate of 0.0001%

]]> By: Sephyroth http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-44078 Sephyroth Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:28:59 +0000 http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/#comment-44078 First off, thanks for the opportunity to guest post :) As far as why people fall for the scams, a lot of it has to do with the fact that folks get these mails, and think that there actually is this fortune out there waiting for them. As they go down the path communicating with the scammer, even if they do not pay any money at first, there is a sense of trust being built between the victim and the scammer. In fact, I have seen people keep thinking that the deal is in fact real even after they have been told that it is a scam. A lot of that is due to the fact that they think that they'll lose the fortune if they don't keep paying. Unfortunately, these are people who will also likely fall prey to the "money recovery" scam where other scammers will contact them and claim that they can recover the money that the victim has lost to another scammer; all they have to do is pay them. Sephyroth http://sephyroth.blogspot.com First off, thanks for the opportunity to guest post :)

As far as why people fall for the scams, a lot of it has to do with the fact that folks get these mails, and think that there actually is this fortune out there waiting for them. As they go down the path communicating with the scammer, even if they do not pay any money at first, there is a sense of trust being built between the victim and the scammer.

In fact, I have seen people keep thinking that the deal is in fact real even after they have been told that it is a scam. A lot of that is due to the fact that they think that they’ll lose the fortune if they don’t keep paying. Unfortunately, these are people who will also likely fall prey to the “money recovery” scam where other scammers will contact them and claim that they can recover the money that the victim has lost to another scammer; all they have to do is pay them.

Sephyroth
http://sephyroth.blogspot.com

]]> By: ray http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-44027 ray Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:53:54 +0000 http://freshblogger.com/2007/06/how-to-not-make-money-on-the-internet/#comment-44027 Hi Michael. I was thinking the same thing? Why do so many educated people seem to fall for these scams? Is it just hope and desperation that cause people to believe in something like this falling in their lap out of the blue? Hi Michael. I was thinking the same thing? Why do so many educated people seem to fall for these scams? Is it just hope and desperation that cause people to believe in something like this falling in their lap out of the blue?

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